Episode 5: Come Clean
Audio Transcript

SPEAKERS – Hayley Smith-Rose and Becca Howard

Hayley  00:04
It’s Fever Dream Diaries, the podcast where we give you way too much information about our past. It’s Hayley and my girl Becca in studio to unpack some more dirty laundry. Well, Becca, here we are one month away from the reunion almost paid $200 for our tickets. This better be good.

Becca  00:27
I cannot believe $200?

Hayley 00:31
Listen, they better feed me some gold and crusted steaks open bar that goes without saying there better be an open bar. Anywho, you know, I’m not gonna be salty about it. Because I’m very excited. I’ve been trying to mentally prepare. Have you been doing the same?

Becca  00:47
Yes, I have. So since we last saw each other. It’s been a while I do miss you more. But we have been catching up via text. You know what I’ve been watching on my free time.

Hayley 00:58
Oh, one of my personal favorites, whatever it takes.

Becca  01:01
So Degrassi: The Next Generation. 21 years ago, the show premiered changed both of our lives forever. We didn’t even know each other yet. Right. But I have been rewatching. And I feel like we have a lot to talk about

Hayley 01:13
Degrassi for better or for worse, raised me. That’s so true. You know, it really did. And I have rewatched it many times throughout my life since it came out. So tell me what are some highlights that you’re experiencing?

Becca  01:31
Well, I’m currently on season five. Anyone who doesn’t know what we’re talking about? Is pretty obscure. You think so? They know.

Hayley 01:40
Yeah. I feel like anyone listening to this must have seen Degrassi they wouldn’t have gotten this far with us without having known Degrassi.

Becca  01:48
I feel that’s true. I mean, I’m thinking of my personal experience rewatching it with my boyfriend. He’s never seen it. He didn’t have the end growing up. He didn’t have that channel.

Hayley 01:59
Oh, he didn’t get noggin. Hmm. He didn’t thrive. How embarrassing.

Becca  02:05
I mean, personally, I think I had those extra premium cable packages just so that my parents had more things to distract us.

Hayley 02:12
Absolutely. Same. That’s why we had that our parents didn’t want to deal with us

Becca  02:17
endless TV. There was no, my parents could never they would always just say like, you can find something. There’s hundreds of channels.

Hayley 02:24
And that’s why we’re so creative today.

Becca  02:28
Watching media and broadcasting.

Hayley 02:32
We always just had to find something to do and we did. Absolutely.

Becca  02:35
And that’s definitely part of the reason we became such close friends so correctly, most of our friends around us had you know, parents watching

Hayley 02:46
You make our parents crazy, and I love it. We have good parents. The thing is our parents are too hard working for their own good like, they were just working Oh, why and God love them for it. But we had a lot of time.

Becca  03:01
So in the 80s, they used to call kids like us latchkey kids. Have you ever heard that term?

Hayley
No. What is that?

Becca
It’s like from a book I read as a kid. And it’s related to like children who have to go find a key to unlock the door themselves. I didn’t even have a key. So we would just leave the screen door unlocked and hope no one broke in every day, and me and my sisters would climb in that way. That’s got dark.

Hayley 03:34
This is taking a turn. But doesn’t that make a lot of sense for us. But anywho,

Becca  03:46
Back to what I was saying about maybe the people that don’t know, the show, Degrassi was a teen drama soap opera type show that premiered in 2001, as I mentioned, and continues to this day. Till this very minute.

Hayley 04:07
Yes. So multiple generations. Netflix picked it up for a while, now HBO has it. So if you haven’t seen Degrassi I mean, HBO Max should be paying us for this, but highly recommend going to watch it.

Becca  04:19
What are you waiting for? Just go watch.

Hayley 04:23
I will say I think the fact that Drake was on it has made it a little more mainstream. So I hope people know what we’re talking about.

Becca  04:32
So Drake’s character was named Jimmy and I feel like he was one of the least exciting characters on the show.

Hayley 04:38
Yeah. I mean, he was a big role, but No, he wasn’t anyone’s favorite. No, I mean, we all we all have a favorite. I know what your favorite character was.

Becca  04:51
I have a very specific favorite Craig. I love Craig.

Hayley 04:55
Have you even seen updated Craig? You know what? No spoilers. No spoilers.

Becca  05:01
I love Craig

Hayley 05:03
I feel like that is a very hot take

Becca  05:09
It is a hot take. It’s like a problematically hot,

Hayley 05:13
I love you nonetheless. My favorites in there this might be a hot take as well but Paige has always been a fave for me and Manny as well.

Becca
We love Manny

Hayley
We love Manny and I will stand by that until the day I die.

Becca  05:25
I just thought of a random thing about Manny. Do you remember that episode when they tried to make her seem like a really horrible dancer in front of that new kid at the school dance and she like flails her arms like crazy.

Hayley
No, I don’t feel it to you because it makes no sense with her character.

Becca
Yeah, she’s a cheerleader. Like she is a dancer, a gymnast and an ice skater and supposed to be the best at all of those things.

Hayley 05:48
Right, but she can’t dance. I don’t buy that. That doesn’t make sense in my world, personally.

Becca  05:54
Is this a Degrassi podcast?

Hayley 05:56
I wish. I wish we started that. There are some though. Shout out to the Degrassi pods out there. We should indulge in some of those I know they exist.

Becca  06:06
Definitely. We got to support our fellow creators

Hayley 06:09
I actually was Paige for Halloween this year. I did have a fear that no one would know what that was. But you’d be surprised

Becca  06:18
Thank goodness! What did you wear? Can you explain the outfit?

Hayley 06:21
It’s the Paige outfit where she says “New Year, New Look, New Paige” Um, so she’s wearing the hottie teacher and just the sunglasses that look that she does.

Becca  06:34
I would probably want to be Ashley to your Paige

Hayley 06:42
Can you be goth Ashley though, like when she goes through that phase?

Becca  06:45
Yes. And I’m gonna make Tyler dress up as Craig

Hayley 06:48
you’re just trying to live your dream of marrying Craig

Becca
Can your boyfriend dress up as spinner?

Hayley  06:53
Oh, that’d be the dream. Yeah, you know what’s funny is I actually joked about that with Zach I was like since I’m being Paige, you should be Spinner and he looked up outfits and stuff and was thinking about it, but I think just like we didn’t have enough time to like pull the look together for him fully.

Becca  07:09
I could be Alex with your Paige and we could be lovers

Hayley 07:13
The way we’re always was meant to be.

Becca  07:15
She was not my favorite. That girl was me.

Hayley 07:16
Paige could have done better for sure.

Becca  07:20
So we’re really diving in, but it’s been on top of mind. Top of Mind. Absolutely. When I was at your house last time, you just put on a random episode of Degrassi as one does, like season eight. Right. And I just brought me back immediately. Absolutely. And then I also noticed you have mentioned a Degrassi quote, I believe by Craig in one of our first letter

Hayley
Do tell

Becca
It’s something about the way you shine when the lights go out. I only want to make you mine. You wrote that to me.

Hayley 07:52
And that’s because I love you and that is lyrics from one of Craig’s songs. You know what Craig had some bangers, dare I say. I would definitely download aka pirate them from Limewire. I had some of those on my iPod.

Becca
Absolutely. The music from Degrassi is iconic.

Hayley
Yes, I will say of all the musicians ever in Degrassi Craig was probably the best.

Becca 08:18
Thank you. Thank you.

Hayley  08:20
You’re welcome. I don’t want to spoil for anyone listening and hasn’t watched it. But Craig doesn’t always do redeeming things like that. So we’ll take them where we can get them.

Becca  08:31
I mean, from the beginning of this episode, I’ve already been talking about my own family challenges. So maybe I liked Craig because of his personal family challenges.

Hayley 08:41
He’s so funny how that is

Becca  08:43
it really does. also he looks like my sister

Hayley 08:46
Craig does kind of look like your sister.

Becca  08:49
But especially once he gets like the relaxer. He had curly hair in seasons one and two, and then he just let’s it flow. And I’m like, is that my sister?

Hayley 09:04
Whatever.

Becca  09:06
But Degrassi has also brought me back to the fashion of the era

Hayley
Oh, which I loved.

Becca
I don’t know. It was obscure. So as a curvy girl who has always been a curvy girl over here, I don’t like the style of the early aughts.

Hayley 09:21
I will say my biggest complaint is the low rise jeans

Becca  09:29
Freakin low rise, and a a metal belt like literally metal belt every time you left the house

Hayley 09:35
low rise pants were never going to be for anyone

Becca  09:42
maybe for some skinny queens over here like you as a child, but I’m the same size now as I was as a freshman

Hayley 09:51
eI wouldn’t have worn low rise jeans. It was not comfortable. It wasn’t even cute. It was always butt crack

Becca  10:02
You have a midriff. It’s like basically if you pull your pants down any further, you’re gonna see

Hayley 10:07
my vagina. Actual vagina. Yeah, I don’t like that. So I will say there’s that. But what I enjoyed about the fashion in this era is how no one gave a fuck if things matched or went together like any type of fabric, it did not matter. You would rock that and you’d rock it all at once.

Becca  10:26
Oh, like a Canadian tuxedo? Do we know what this says? I feel like people don’t understand a Canadian.

Hayley
Explain what it is for the good people.

Becca
Well, my best friend Craig on Degrassi loves to wear his Canadian tuxedo which is jean on the top, jean on the bottom maybe a jean shirt if we can throw it in there

Hayley
All denim all day. Maybe a cowboy hat if you can really make it work. He rocked it. Is that what Britney wore? Did she have a denim cowboy hat? That’s why I’m thinking about it here.

Becca  10:55
You and me. I’ll be Justin, happy to take one for the team. Britney in an all denim dress all day. Next Halloween. Thank you.

Hayley 11:06
Just I’m really glad that you brought Justin Timberlake because he triggers me and not for the reasons that one might think.

Becca  11:13
What would be the reasons that one might think?

Hayley 11:17
The very upsetting situations of what’s happened with him and Britney and him and Janet

Becca
I haven’t heard about those?

Hayley
Get outta here. So all that stuff. I’m like, Oh, I don’t love that. But we had a Justin Timberlake experience.

Becca  11:38
Oh, that’s what you want to talk about.

Hayley 11:42
it ties into this era.

Becca  11:43
I’m just worried about what might come out with this story.

Hayley 11:47
You know what, it’s been 15 years. I think that we must put ourselves under the bus with this one. I think we have no other choice.

Becca  11:56
What have we found about our Justin Timberlake memories? What do we remember?

Hayley  12:01
I was actually reading a note you had here talking about how we were taking a limo to the show. let me just paint a picture. This is the FutureSex/LoveShow. The show and the tour which was incredible. I’m gonna have nothing bad to say about the show. P!nk opened. She was doing her acrobatics

Becca 12:26
It was awesome.

Hayley
Whatever you got to say about Justin Timberlake personally, fair enough. I probably would agree with you. But an amazing entertainer. And we ended up being very close. Were we a front row?

Becca  12:39
Yes, we could touch him. We could touch him. And I’m pretty sure I could find photos.

Hayley 12:42
Now let’s go back to the beginning of this whole situation to tell you how we got there. So this letter here. I hate to say it, but we talk about the Justin Timberlake concert. And I’m saying I don’t want to tell Jane, but we have to and it says we have the perfect plan. We should say that we won them on some random radio station that she doesn’t even listen to that way she can’t catch us. Now. Basically, what had happened to backtrack even further. We had another friend who will – she is not going to make any of the notes. Sorry. Sorry. If you are not significant enough to make the note. I don’t make the rules. But anyhow,

Becca  13:28
Sorry you don’t get a pseudonym because you don’t even have a name.

Hayley 13:32
Oh man anywho this friend I don’t know if she got them for her birthday. But her parents had given her copious tickets to the front row of Justin Timberlake show and she invited us. We were going to go with Jane before we got this invite. But were we going to turn down a front row to get to Justin Timberlake? Her parents also had so much money. They also got us a limo to go to the show

Becca  14:00
It was a weeknight like a school night, right? Because that was crazy in retrospect,

Hayley 14:03
but anywho, we obviously wanted the more bougie luxurious situation rather than being up in the nosebleeds with Jane. So we did lie. We did say we won these tickets on a radio station which is hella funny now that I work in radio to think I love that full circle for me and I’m living for honestly anyone if you ever want to lie and say that I gave you something on the radio, I will back that up. i When they asked me ever I will say that is true. Anyhow,

Becca  14:34
that was really nice of you.

Hayley 14:35
It’s karma. I think I owe that to the world because we did that and it was kind of fucked up.

Becca  14:41
yeah, definitely not our best. I’m ashamed.

Hayley 14:45
I’m a little ashamed. I wonder if that if she’s gonna listen to this and be like, Wow, they did not really win them on a radio station.

Becca  14:53
I think they saw her at the concert. Oh, could I forget that moment? She was there. And she was with her other friend from elementary or middle school.

Hayley 15:10
So so you know what, there’s nothing to be upset about. She still went to the show she still had someone to go with. It’s not like she had to go with her parents or something like that. It was fine.

Becca  15:21
It was, but how did we explain it the next day? Oh, well, we just said that we got tickets from the radio station. How did we explain the limo?

Hayley 15:28
I’m sure we said that was a part of the prize. I’m sure we bullshited our way all the way through

Becca  15:34
As you know, we posted those photos.

Hayley  15:37
Oh, I can picture the pictures we took in my brain because I remember they had the mirror on the ceiling of the limo. We were taking mirror pictures. We were having ourselves a frickin time they took out all the champagne and put sodas.

Becca  15:51
Remember that we had little plastic flutes and we weren’t drinking because like

Hayley 15:56
Low key I probably would have drank champagne. And I wasn’t even that kid. But if you threw me in the back of a limo.

Becca  16:03
I mean, there was that one time we tried to drink before that. And it didn’t go well. It didn’t go well know the way that we got drunk and the way that we didn’t get dropped.

Hayley 16:12
Yeah, and the way that nothing occurred. So Oh, that was a sweet time. In retrospect, we were with Jane. And that’s what makes these stories so depressing. Because we really were all so close. We had so many first experiences with her that it is incredibly fucked that we lied to her about the concert just thinking about the things that we did share. And I remember that day vividly. We were at my mom’s apartment. She had a bottle of wine. We were like this is the day. How did we open the bottle? No, that’s the thing that we couldn’t Yes. Oh, that was that was the issue. Know how to open a bottle. I still barely know how to open up a bottle of wine

Becca  16:51
With those nails. Good luck, girl

Hayley 16:54
Someone helped us.

Becca
Just use one of your nails and just stick it in the cork

Hayley
I am the corkscrew bitch. Oh my god. But yeah, we tried to open up the bottle of wine and couldn’t. I think we got like a hole in it so it was able to drip out or something obscene. You, me and Jane each had like the littlest taste of wine and it did nothing for us.

Becca  17:18
But didn’t Jane get the most affected? I feel like that was like a long run. That they were the person who would? Yeah,

Hayley 17:28
I don’t know if Jane was just reacting like that. Because she thought maybe she was drunk.

Becca  17:36
Didn’t we leave a dent in your mom’s wall? Oh, yeah, we did. Was it me? It was either me or Jane literally fell back in a chair.

Hayley 17:45
I assume it was Jane because she was so wasted. Yeah, you know, my mom never questioned that or the bottle. I feel I’m sure I made up something to cover it up.

Becca  17:55
She probably had hidden the corkscrew intentionally

Hayley 18:01
We wouldn’t have even known how to use it. So I don’t, I don’t know. My mom’s probably never heard that story. So this is going to be a fun treat for her. So basically, that’s just another story of how we did Jane wrong. Time and time again, as much as we love her. But we have a lot of great times with and without her at my mom’s apartment. What was really cool about actually my mom moved a lot but in this specific apartment she no longer lives in so don’t try to find my mom, but she lived near this bowling alley called Leda Lanes. So on weekends, it’s not like we were up to no good. We weren’t going to parties. No, no, no, we were hanging out at Leda motherfucking Lanes.

Becca  19:14
Oh my god. There were definitely child predators hanging out with us

Hayley 19:19
sorry, Leda Lanes. I’m sure you’re different now. I’m sure you’ve gotten better. They still exist, right? I’m assuming

Becca  19:24
well, they definitely closed down the portion with glow bowling.

Hayley 19:28
I didn’t even know it had a glow bowling version. So okay, I won’t miss it

Becca  19:32
And then they also shut down the buffet.

Hayley 19:36
Oh, all right.

Becca  19:37
All right, that is too bad.

Hayley 19:39
So yeah, this place, maybe there were predators. Maybe we were the predators at time and we’ll get to that. So with the back portion of Leda Lanes and what made it so sketchy is a I’m gonna call it a dive bar, call it a den

Becca
You could call it Kegler’s Den

Hayley
Because that’s what it’s called. So in the back of The lanes it’s closed off so like we could not enter it you needed to go through a door with an ID. Why do I feel like we did? I’m sure we did. But we didn’t go to like the bar.

Becca  20:10
Oh no, but I definitely think we snuck back there

Hayley 20:12
So we I kid you not. I wish I was over exaggerating this, but we would go to this bowling alley and walk around. Yeah, and we would just not play. I could count on one hand how many times we bowled there and we’ve been there millions of times. They did have Dance Dance Revolution, which I would dabble in now and again, but mostly we would loiter.

Becca  20:36
Loiter and try to make some new friends.

Hayley 20:39
Oh, and actually we did make friends and make friends. So shout out to all our friends we’ve made at Leda lanes. You put me and Becca on a different planet and we will come back with at least three friends. that’s just the kind of bitches we are

Becca  20:54
you could send us to Rikers Island please don’t but you could you could send us to Rikers Island

Hayley 21:07
I need it. I need it.

Becca  21:10
You could send us to Guantanamo Bay and we’re gonna come back with a posse. I feel like our motto back in the day was strangers are just friends you haven’t met yet.

Hayley 21:28
We just love people, arguably too much. So we’d go to Lena lanes we’d make friends and we would just bounce around and we would just be seen. We would get dressed up for this. You know, we weren’t there to bowl we weren’t there for any shenanigans. We were there to walk that catwalk.

Becca  21:48
You’re putting on your best Abercrombie shirt, you’re making sure those lashes are done and with your Great Lash Mascara. Absolutely

Hayley 21:56
you are head to toe drenched in Bath and Body works cucumber melon fucking spray bitch

Becca  22:02
What about the Sweet Pea though?

Hayley 22:05
Yeah, I do love sweet pea as well.

Becca  22:09
Sometimes I would do a sweet pea lotion and then go over it with another spray

Hayley 22:15
You just have to expand your palate and that’s what we did at Leda lanes so throughout many of your notes and journal entries I see a reference to someone who we entitled little Jacob. Little Jacob – we have a few littles – little Daniel that sounds creepy.

Becca  22:40
I’m looking at like multiple creepy as posters I made for you like little Jacob little Daniel, say their names right?

Hayley 22:48
Yeah, we don’t know their last names and we never will so it’s fine.

Becca  22:52
Is it weird I do know their last names?

Hayley 22:54
you know little Jacob’s last name? No, you don’t. So now we need to give context a little Jacob was quite literally a child three year old. Yes. Who was out lead lanes with his family or I can assume and somehow some way we talk to this child and spend time with this child so much so that we have multiple pictures with this child in little Jacob. I mean, must be how old now? Would you say

Becca  23:28
oh my gosh, that’s the weirdest part. He’s probably like 20 Something. I’m trying to pull up if I can find any photos with him.

Hayley 23:36
I feel like it’s okay if we say his name because I don’t think we’ll ever see him again. You know what would be so sweet if we did post the pictures of us with little Jacob and see if anyone knows who that is? That’s such a good I will do that. What the hell? Why not? What’s the worst that could happen because

Becca  23:52
a child from Nashua, clearly a latchkey kid himself.

Hayley 23:56
You know what, actually, we can assume that I think that’s why we bonded with him. Like why were we? Did we have him in our possession to take pictures with? And like, why did we feel so comfortable with this child that we wanted to hold on to this memory for life?

Becca  24:13
Well, I have photos with him and I’m gonna find them but it’s like me, I don’t know. I’m like photobombing him like, did he just want a photo alone? And I just like jumped in and tried to make him uncomfortable. I don’t know. There was a lot to unpack there.

Hayley 24:25
And that’s why I say we were potentially predators of Leda lanes. not sexual predators, but friendly. Overly friendly people who wanted to befriend any age, any person and just walk around Leda Lanes with them.

Becca  24:42
And you know, bringing back the whole idea of us being there not not actually bowling, not actually doing anything – like we didn’t have disposable income, right?

Hayley 24:52
We didn’t have money to just be doing these things as well. So they never kicked us out of leda lanes, which was really gracious. They probably just were minding their own business, didn’t give a shit. I’m sure whoever worked there was high

Becca  25:06
They had behind the counter one person working at all times and they were only there to give you shoes. They didn’t care about anything else. There was machines doing all the other words true. That’s true. They had a mechanical pizza maker

Hayley 25:18
That actually was pretty ahead of their time I will say

Becca  25:21
Nashua where we came from, is a very industrious place. It’s very modern. Yeah. I mean, places wanted to be cool. And we wanted to be cool. So Leda Lanes was the place to hang out. Absolutely. We also went on some cringy dates there. Those were the times we actually bowled.

Hayley 25:35
Yeah, that was the only time when we had boys. We should have worked at Leda lanes. Why did we never work there?

Becca  25:41
I was gonna kind of lead into how the same notes that mentioned Leda lanes also mentioned over and over again, you reminding us we need to look for jobs. 14 Haley, listen,

Hayley  25:55
I started working at 14 and I’ve never I guess obviously from the notes. I had brief moments where I didn’t, but I always had been like, I want my own money. Yes. I’m gonna spend my own money queen. Oh, yeah. We looked hard for jobs together, but we never got hired literally ever

Becca  26:19
I remember us applying to the movie theater together that was opening that year. And neither of us got a call back. But then the next year, I did get a job there through connections, it was actually nepotism.

Hayley 26:33
I’m not gonna question it. I would love and also hate to go back and look at us in job interviews during this period of time. Because why? If we were like this, those interviews must have been the most cringy experience. I bet whoever interviewed us will go home and be like, Yo, you will not believe this bitch.

Becca  26:54
I have a memory of us being very clear that we could not work Friday nights. That was our time to focus on our relationship

Hayley 27:04
And that’s important. The fact that they couldn’t grasp that is on them because look at us, we’re still fucking friends. look at that. And they didn’t have us. That’s their loss.

Becca  27:17
The movie theater where I worked. I will say it kind of was probably the main thing that tore us apart because I worked so much right. And I ended up working every Friday night because it’s a movie theater, duh

Hayley 27:28
don’t feel like you are the reason for that because I also when you got that job I started working at I’ll say it because I actually enjoyed these places. I worked at Panera Bread, and then I worked at Texas Roadhouse, I have nothing but good things to say about those places. So I don’t mind saying it. I would actually work at the Texas Roadhouse again if my radio career did not work out for me. I honestly would. Oh, that is a tangent that we don’t need to go on. But we were always hard working. We didn’t choose to spend our money at Leda lanes, but we were also a bit of mall rats I would say

Becca  28:11
well, I mean, it’s hard to be mall rats when you have no money,

Hayley 28:15
Am I using the term mall rat correctly? people who hang out the mall?

Becca  28:19
I guess? Yeah, we could be like the old people that walk around and don’t actually buy anything. Yeah, that was our vibe. We had enough money to get into Target and buy ourselves a damn popcorn and split a coke.

Hayley 28:32
That was so sweet. That was in a note I just read. I actually forgot that we used to do that. Yeah, we would spend the $3 we made that week after taxes. And we would get popcorn share a coke and just literally talk.

Becca  28:54
It’s so crazy. Like those are core memories for me.

Hayley 28:58
And now we’re just doing the same thing only into a microphone which is so full circle and so tender.

Becca  29:04
I know. What’s not wholesome is what else we were doing at target. I have this note I found about my theft days

Hayley 29:14
we need to unpack, and I didn’t want to come to this, but we did have a thievery

Becca  29:20
I was like a little thief I was a little sticky fingered raccoon

Hayley 29:26
you taught me your ways, you sick freak.

Becca  29:29
I just learned from my friends like I won’t say their names, but my friends from middle school used to take tags off of things inside and then just leave them in the dressing room. God we never did that.

Hayley 29:45
You know what, Becca? now that I really think about it you were not the person who introduced me to shoplifting. I remember who it was. I’m obviously not gonna say her name. I remember I went to the mall with this girl who I thought was so cool and I wanted to be friends with her, she was so pretty. She was like kind of MySpace famous for that time. So I remember her and I went to the mall together. At this point I did not know she was a thief, so we’re just going through the mall and I remember being in Abercrombie, which honestly at this point, fuck Abercrombie. I’m glad I robbed them.

Becca  30:22
seriously, they’ve done enough damage for our generation.

Hayley 30:25
Yeah, I earned that.

Becca  30:27
Same with Victoria’s secret

Hayley 30:28
Exactly. I probably robbed them blind too. Oh, so she brought me into Abercrombie and showed me how she would shoplift and she would take stuff into the dressing room and do a whole little thing and that was my introduction to shoplifting and I will say you and I never took big ticket items

Becca  30:51
It was makeup it was like whatever little earrings

Hayley 30:55
Yeah, little drink not even expensive ones.

Becca  30:58
No, but then I look back and I’m definitely grateful we never got caught. Yes, that could have definitely been a bad path.

Hayley 31:06
Right? And I’m embarrassed that I did it. I’m not proud that we did that, but we need to be transparent about who we were and it happened.

Becca  31:15
So it’s kind of like this brings me back to latchkey kids right? I googled the word just to make sure I wasn’t like using the wrong term. I mean at this point in the podcast, people probably have caught on that I like make up phrases, so but I just wanted to read to you why I’m even more grateful that we’re okay because it says the effects of being a latchkey kid child differ with age, loneliness, boredom and fear are most common for those younger than 10. In the early teens, there is a greater susceptibility to peer pressure potentially resulting in such behavior as alcohol use drug use and promiscuity. behaviors might stem from unspent energy, peer pressure to misbehave or hostility because of the lack of appropriate adult attention. Signs. And then it says socioeconomic status and length of time left alone can bring forth other negative effects. In one study, middle school students left home alone for more than three hours a day reported higher levels of behavioral problems, depression and lower levels of self esteem.

Hayley 32:21
That can’t apply to every one but we definitely grew up in an environment where that could have been us

Becca  32:27
I just didn’t realize that there was like, research done into the negative consequences of this.

Hayley 32:35
We’re the happy stories about that, you know, resiliency. I have no regrets about the way we spend our time minus the shoplifting. That’s my only regret here.

Becca  32:49
I hope they don’t come after us for that one.

Hayley 32:51
Yeah, no. Oh my god. Abercrombie sues me immediately.

Becca  32:57
We can take it out, we can cut out Abercrombie – just say it was Aeropostale. No one will know.

Hayley 33:05
This was fun, pretty much drawing a map to all of our adventures, and we have a lot more to explore.

Becca  33:13
Absolutely.

Hayley 33:14
let’s take a breather. Let’s call Leda lanes to make sure they’re still open and we’ll meet next time

Becca  33:22
and on that note until next time.

Hayley 33:25
If you like what you hear make sure you follow us on all social media. Becca tell them where they can find us

Becca  33:31
our Instagram handle is @feverdreamdiaries, Tik Tok is @feverdreamdiariespod and if you want to email us, you can always send us a message at feverdreamdiaries@gmail.com

Hayley 33:43
Send us all your deepest darkest secrets. We would love to read them, we would love to connect with you on that spiritual level and also on our social media. We’re going to be posting all sorts of content relating to the episode. See old embarrassing photos of us, see relics from the past that will bring you back to a simpler time right?

Becca  34:05
A time before Tik Tok, a time before Instagram. A time when MySpace ruled the world

Hayley 34:10
Oh my god, a time we all yearn for. So be sure to follow us and if you really like what you hear yes, a freaking review somewhere, would you?

Becca  34:20
maybe a comment, maybe a like

Hayley 34:24
if you think that someone else in this world would like this podcast you show us some love so we can get spread to them. Apple Music, Spotify, wherever you’re listening to podcasts leave us a five star review. We won’t be able to sleep well tonight otherwise

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